{"id":39700,"date":"2019-11-08T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2019-11-08T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/newrcblog.wpengine.com\/customer-centric-culture-interview-with-annette-franz\/"},"modified":"2025-03-13T06:45:17","modified_gmt":"2025-03-13T13:45:17","slug":"customer-centric-culture-interview-with-annette-franz","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"\/us\/en\/blog\/customer-centric-culture-interview-with-annette-franz\/","title":{"rendered":"Customer-Centric Culture \u2013 Interview with Annette Franz"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Annette Franz, CCXP, is the founder and CEO of CX Journey Inc., a customer experience consultancy. Internationally-Recognized customer experience thought leader, coach, speaker, and author of\u00a0<\/span><a class=\"_e75a791d-denali-editor-page-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/dp\/1686886810\/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=annette+franz&amp;qid=1567611197&amp;s=books&amp;sr=1-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Customer Understanding:<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0Three Ways to Put the \u201cCustomer\u201d in Customer Experience (and at the Heart of Your Business).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">With more than 25 years in customer experience, she is also the 2020 Chairwoman of the Board of Directors for the CXPA (Customer Experience Professionals Association), Annette is also an official member of the Forbes Coaches Council.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Over the course of this interview, Annette breaks down why focusing on understanding customers is essential for differentiation, analyzing your data to identify issues, and creating the right culture to empower your agents with autonomy.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><strong>Can you introduce yourself and tell us about your background?<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Hi everyone! My name is Annette Franz (rhymes with Fonz!), and I\u2019ve been in this customer experience space since the early \u201890s when I started at J.D Power and Associates. It\u2019s been interesting to watch the evolution of customer experience over the last 25+ years, for sure. Today, I am the founder and CEO of CX Journey Inc., a customer experience strategy firm that helps clients understand customers and employees in order to design and deliver a better experience, retain employees and customers, and see the business grow. I recently published my first book, Customer Understanding: Three Ways to Put the \u201cCustomer\u201d in Customer Experience (and at the Heart of Your Business).<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">In your opinion, how can organizations differentiate themselves from competitors in Customer Service?<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">One thing to recognize is that customer experience is proactive, i.e., we proactively design a great experience, whereas customer service is the reaction, i.e., when the experience breaks down, customers call for service\/help. So if companies want to differentiate themselves, they ought to focus on understanding customers and designing products and services that solve their problems.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span class='bctt-click-to-tweet'><span class='bctt-ctt-text'><a href='https:\/\/x.com\/intent\/tweet?url=%2Fus%2Fen%2Fblog%2Fcustomer-centric-culture-interview-with-annette-franz%2F&#038;text=So%20if%20companies%20want%20to%20differentiate%20themselves%2C%20they%20ought%20to%20focus%20on%20understanding%20customers%20and%20designing%20products%20and%20services%20that%20solve%20their%20problems.&#038;via=@annettefranz&#038;related=@annettefranz' target='_blank'rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">So if companies want to differentiate themselves, they ought to focus on understanding customers and designing products and services that solve their problems. <\/a><\/span><a href='https:\/\/x.com\/intent\/tweet?url=%2Fus%2Fen%2Fblog%2Fcustomer-centric-culture-interview-with-annette-franz%2F&#038;text=So%20if%20companies%20want%20to%20differentiate%20themselves%2C%20they%20ought%20to%20focus%20on%20understanding%20customers%20and%20designing%20products%20and%20services%20that%20solve%20their%20problems.&#038;via=@annettefranz&#038;related=@annettefranz' target='_blank' class='bctt-ctt-btn'rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Share on X<\/a><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">A powerful tool and process to help design a great experience is journey mapping. When we map the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ringcentral.com\/us\/en\/blog\/customer-journeys\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">journey<\/a> a customer takes to contact customer service, we have customers in the room and stakeholders. Customer service stakeholders should be in the room, of course, but you should also have stakeholders from sales, marketing, product design, product marketing, billing, etc. in the room (depending on what type of issue is being solved\/mapped). That way, when they hear and understand the customer\u2019s experience, they can identify things that happened upstream (e.g., sales sold the dream; marketing\u2019s messaging was off; the product design was flawed; installation instructions were inaccurate).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">When those issues upstream are fixed and the experience has been redesigned, the result is fewer calls to the call center, and the customer service experience is enhanced \u2013 in two ways: (1) fewer customers have to call, which is a plus for customers; and (2) for those customers who do call, agents are freed up and can spend more time to handle critical issues.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">The bottom line: differentiate yourself by making the need to call customer service obsolete for most customers!<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">What initiatives can be implemented to drive value throughout the customer journey?<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">First and foremost, you\u2019ve got to have a customer-centric culture in place. A customer-centric culture is one where the customer is at the heart of all the business does. No discussions, no decisions, no designs without bringing in the voice of the customer, without asking: How will this impact the customer? How it will make her feel? What problem will it solve for her? What value will it deliver for her?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Next, you\u2019ve got to understand your customers \u2013 who they are, what their pain points are, problems they\u2019re trying to solve, jobs they are trying to do. You do that by listening (feedback and data), characterizing (personas), and empathizing (walking in their shoes, journey mapping).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">And, you\u2019ve got to socialize and operationalize the understanding. It\u2019s not enough to understand \u2013 you\u2019ve got to share that and put it to work for you. You\u2019ve got to train employees on the customer and the customer experience so that they can deliver value to your customers.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">What common roadblocks are companies facing to achieve customer satisfaction?<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">There are two roadblocks, and they are self-imposed.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Companies have tons of feedback, tons of data, and they do nothing with it. They simply \u201ccollect\u201d feedback, like one would collect stamps. More to just check the box, to say, \u201cWe do that.\u201d But like those stamps, the data sit on the proverbial shelf and age and get dusty. Customers try to help by telling companies what they\u2019re doing right and what they\u2019re doing wrong \u2013 so they can fix it if needed \u2013 yet brands waste that feedback by doing nothing with it.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">The other roadblock is that they focus on the metric, on moving the needle, and not on the customer and the customer experience. Listening becomes all about \u201cHow do we rate today?\u201d While it\u2019s good to gauge your performance, moving the metric is an outcome \u2013 the first area of focus ought to be: what\u2019s going on with the customer experience and how do we improve it. Too many times, the conversation starts with, \u201cHow do we improve the metric?\u201d not with \u201cHow do we improve the experience?\u201d When we focus on the metric, we do different things and do things differently than when we focus on the experience and how to improve it \u2013 which will ultimately move the metric.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">How can enterprises ensure that customer needs are being met across all channels?<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">I\u2019ll go back to a response that I gave previously. Companies need to understand their customers \u2013 who they are, what their pain points are, problems they\u2019re trying to solve, jobs they are trying to do. They\u2019ve got to listen (feedback and data), characterize (personas), and empathize (journey mapping). You can\u2019t transform something you don\u2019t understand. You can\u2019t meet a need \u2013 at one channel or at all \u2013 without understanding what those needs are, problems to be solved, etc.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class='bctt-click-to-tweet'><span class='bctt-ctt-text'><a href='https:\/\/x.com\/intent\/tweet?url=%2Fus%2Fen%2Fblog%2Fcustomer-centric-culture-interview-with-annette-franz%2F&#038;text=The%20trick%20to%20a%20great%20omnichannel%20experience%20is%20data&#038;via=@annettefranz&#038;related=@annettefranz' target='_blank'rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The trick to a great omnichannel experience is data <\/a><\/span><a href='https:\/\/x.com\/intent\/tweet?url=%2Fus%2Fen%2Fblog%2Fcustomer-centric-culture-interview-with-annette-franz%2F&#038;text=The%20trick%20to%20a%20great%20omnichannel%20experience%20is%20data&#038;via=@annettefranz&#038;related=@annettefranz' target='_blank' class='bctt-ctt-btn'rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Share on X<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Beyond that, data is key. The trick to great <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ringcentral.com\/small-business\/blog\/omnichannel-customer-service\/\">omnichannel customer service<\/a> and experiences is data. It will be necessary for: data to be centralized, the right data to be identified and accessible, silos to be broken down or connected in order to share data across channels, and the infrastructure to be in place to share the data, in order for the customer to have a seamless experience.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">No small task.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Do you think that being available where your customers are is a key factor in delivering a remarkable Customer Experience?<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Simple answer: yes, that would truly yield a remarkable experience \u2013 assuming companies understand their customers, their needs, pain points, problems to solve, jobs to be done and deliver on that wherever and however customers prefer to interact.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class='bctt-click-to-tweet'><span class='bctt-ctt-text'><a href='https:\/\/x.com\/intent\/tweet?url=%2Fus%2Fen%2Fblog%2Fcustomer-centric-culture-interview-with-annette-franz%2F&#038;text=Being%20empowered%20is%20all%20about%20agents%20having%20the%20autonomy%20to%20do%20the%20right%20things%20and%20to%20make%20the%20right%20choices%20for%20their%20customers%20%28or%20in%20their%20day-to-day%20work%29.&#038;via=@annettefranz&#038;related=@annettefranz' target='_blank'rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Being empowered is all about agents having the autonomy to do the right things and to make the right choices for their customers (or in their day-to-day work). <\/a><\/span><a href='https:\/\/x.com\/intent\/tweet?url=%2Fus%2Fen%2Fblog%2Fcustomer-centric-culture-interview-with-annette-franz%2F&#038;text=Being%20empowered%20is%20all%20about%20agents%20having%20the%20autonomy%20to%20do%20the%20right%20things%20and%20to%20make%20the%20right%20choices%20for%20their%20customers%20%28or%20in%20their%20day-to-day%20work%29.&#038;via=@annettefranz&#038;related=@annettefranz' target='_blank' class='bctt-ctt-btn'rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Share on X<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Just how important is it that agents are empowered in the workplace with the right culture and tech to deliver great CX?<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Being empowered is all about agents having the autonomy to do the right things and to make the right choices for their customers (or in their day-to-day work). I would say that agents are empowered by the right culture, not with the right culture. You\u2019ve got to have a culture that embraces empowerment. The correct core values and associated behaviors need to be defined, socialized, and operationalized. And technology alone does not empower employees, but it supports and facilitates the work that they do as an empowered employee.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-30288 size-large\" src=\"\/us\/en\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/man-with-headphones-facing-computer-monitor-845451-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"man-with-headphones-facing-computer-monitor-845451\" width=\"640\" height=\"427\" \/><\/p>\n<h2><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">What trends do you see happening in the CX industry over the coming months<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">I\u2019m not big on trends. I\u2019m finding that many companies are still trying to figure out the basics when it comes to customer experience. They can\u2019t begin to focus on omnichannel, digital, personalization, AI, AR, VR, etc. when they can\u2019t even get their executives to commit to putting customers at the top of the priority list (right after employees) or realizing that it\u2019s all about the customer.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Is there anything else you would like to talk about<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Yes, the employee experience. To truly establish a foothold in \u2013 and to then propel \u2013 your customer experience transformation, one of the most important things that businesses must have in place is a happy and engaged workforce that is well cared for by business leaders at all levels. In other words, employees and employee experience must be the priority of the business. Listen to employees, hear what they say, use their feedback to make improvements, involve them in decisions and changes, and watch their satisfaction and engagement flourish. As various research studies show, customers will benefit, and so will the business.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">To learn more about Annette\u2019s work and follow her insights on customer experience, you can find all the information on\u00a0<\/span><a class=\"_e75a791d-denali-editor-page-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/cx-journey.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">CX Journey<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">, plus\u00a0<\/span><a class=\"_e75a791d-denali-editor-page-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/annettefranz?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Twitter<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0and\u00a0<\/span><a class=\"_e75a791d-denali-editor-page-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/annette-franz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">LinkedIn<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Annette Franz, CCXP, is the founder and CEO of CX Journey Inc., a customer experience consultancy. 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